Last updated : 12 Dec 2007, Kampala
Editors comment: Dear Ugandans, this document has been sent to us like 100 times over the past two years. A person who comes from the west will see that it contains a few factual errors, so Radio Katwe ignored it all these years.
Publishing it does not... mean now we endorse it. Rather, our intention is to take it out of the under-ground circulation and expose it to the critical eye of everybody. A wide discussion may help believers look at things more objectively (and hopefully stop the person bombarding our email box with it). Your comments are most welcome.
MEETING HELD AT THE HOME OF H.E. PRESIDENT Y.M. MUSEVEN1, THE PRESIDENT OF UGANDA AT RUSHERE NYABUSHOZ1 ON 15-3-1992
ATTENDANCE
1. Mr.Y.K. Museveni Nyabushozi 2. Mrs. J. Museveni Nyabushozi 3. Mr. Elly Rwakakoko Ruhama, Ntungano 4. Mr. Eric Kabango Rukungiri 5. Akwandanaho Salim Saleh Nyabushozi 6. Mr. Sam Kutesa Nyabushozi 7. Mr. Abel Katemowe Rukungiri 8. Canon Rwabugaire Buyania, Rukungiri 9. Mrs. Rwabugaire Buyanja, Rukungiri 10. John Wycliff Karigire Ntungamo 11. Mrs. Karazarwe Ntungamo 12. Mrs. Rwakakoko Ruhama, Ntungamo 13. Bob Kabonero Ntungamo 14. Mr. Jim Muhwezi Rukungiri 15. Mrs. Susan Muhwezi Rukungiri 16. Mr. Jotham Tumwesigye Nyabushozi, Mbarara 17. Mr. John Nasasira Kazo 18. Mzee Nyindombi Kebisoni 19. Mrs. Faith Bitamurire Kebisoni 20. Mugisha Muhwezi Nyindobi Kebisoni 21. Mrs. Jane Mwesigye Sembabule 22. Mrs. Mwesigye Sembalue 23. Mr. Kamugisha Kebisoni 24. Mrs. Kamugisha Kebisoni 25. Mr. John Kazoora Ntungamo 26. Mr. Christopher Kiyombo Ntungamo 27. Major Henry Tumukunde Buyanja Kitojo 28. Mrs. Tumukunde Buyanja Kitojo 29. Mzee Rwakanengere Kashari Rubaya 30. Jolly Rwakanengere Kampala, Rubaya 31. Mrs Salim Saleh Nyabushozi 32. Rev. Kajangye Buyanja, Kitojo 33. Aronda Nyakeirima Buyanja, Kitojo 34. Mzee Mpira Nuyanja Nyakibungo 35. Charles Muhhozi Kifaburaza Kagunga 36. Justus Katono Karishunga Buyanja 37. Elly Karuhanga Nyabushozi, Mbarara 38. Mzee Kafumusi Ibanda 39. Sikora B.K. Buhweju, Buyaruguru 40. P. Kaitirima Sembabule 41. Mathew Rukikakire Sembabule 42. Mrs. Rukikare Kabura, Rukungiri 43. Sam Baingana Rukungiri 44. Mrs Baingana Rukungiri 45. Mzee Amos Nzei Kabale 46. Mrs. Nzei Kabale 47. Mzee Rutamwebwa Nyabushozi 48. Mrs. Mary Rutamwebwa Nyabushozi 49. Rev. Canon Sam Rubunda Nyabushozi 50. Mrs. Jennifer Kutesa Sembabule/Ntungamo 51. Eriya Kategaya Rwampara 52. Jovia Kankunda Mbarara 53. Mzee Rwakiturate Nyabushozi 54. Rwabantu Rusheyi Ntungamo 55. Col. Chefali Kazo 56. Col. Kazini J. Nyabushozi 57. Major Kashaka Nyabushozi 58. Jero Bwende Nyabushozi 59. Augustine Ruzindana Rubaya, Ntungamo 60. Ephraim Rusimirwa Nyakabuye 61. Mzee Kaino Nyakininga 62. Rev. Rujoki Nshwerunkuye 63. Mrs. J. Rujoki Nshwerunkuye 64. Prince John Barigye Kashari 65. Kanyesigye Barigye Junior Kashari 66. Kirimani Nyabushozi 67. Fred Kanyabubale Kitojo Buyanja 68. Kakurungu Kitojo 69. Captain Biraro Nyabushozi 70. Mrs. Nasasira Kazo 71. Herbert Rwabwende Kashari 72. Odrek Rwabwogo Nyabushozi 73. Hope Kivegere President's Office 74. Bishop Justus Ruhindi Rukugiri 75. Justin Sabiiti Mbarara 76. Maama Rubindi North Kigezi Diocese
AGENDA
1. Prayers
2. Opening Remarks by H.E. (Chairman)
3. Strategy for the next 50 years
4. Plan of Action
Minute 1.00:
The meeting started with a prayer led by Rt. Rev. Bishop Ruhindi at exactly 11.00p.m. who prayed for good deliberations.
Minute 2:00
The Chairman, H.E. welcomed the Basita Clan and other clans present in his home. He briefed members present the purpose of the meeting and thanked organizers for a good job done.
He told members that the only opportunity they have is this one when he is still President. He directed Hope Kivengyere to act as a link between his office and these people at grass roots.
He told them that they were few in number and that he fought to liberate them so that they could be heard in society and Uganda at large.
He reminded them of the need to have a master plan for at least fifty years if the Hima clan is to remain vibrant and rich.
H.E. told his listeners that if they cannot use the opportunity maximally, their daughters and sons would blame them in future.
At this function he revealed to them a scheme and plan of action in order for them to achieve their desired goals as:
- To have the highest education qualifications during his term of office for their children.
- To make sure they are the richest people in Uganda with the 50 years master plan.
- To make sure they control the army and have the highest ranks in the army.
- To ensure that they take charge of all the resources in the country
- To ensure none of those not concerned, not to know about the action plan.
Minute 3.00:
The chairman informed the members to unite so that they could remain the only kings in the region. He said that the master plan couldn't be achieved unless 80% of their youths are properly trained and equipped with the best necessities to maintain these issues.
At this juncture the chairman directed Mr. Elly Karuhanga to take charge of educating the sons and daughters and send them abroad in countries such as India, England, America and South Africa. Karuhanga accepted the responsibility without hesitation.
The chairman also directed Mr. Kirimani to take charge of educating the daughters and sons internally, especially to ensure that he put up special school in Nyabushozi to cater for the interests of the group,
On this note Mr. Kutesa suggested to upgrade Bunyanyeru Resettlement School from Nursery upto Secondary, which was passed with no arguments.
Minute 4:00
Mr. Elly Rwakakoko interjected the chairman's speech by giving directions to members on the real discussion by introducing a new chapter of how H.E. could be succeeded after his term of office.
On this point Mrs. Jovia Salim Saleh begged the members to ensure that after H.E. the next president must come from the Basita clan. She said that she had done a lot for the Basita and taken a lot of risks for the last 20 years and therefore it was important that the Basita take charge of the resources of the country. The members resolved that she was not in order.
Minute 5.00:
Mzee Ephrann Rusimira suggested that the new president should be the brother to the president if the master plan is to succeed. He warned that if the Bairu and non Bahima clans got to know about the action plan, it would fail to take off.
Minute 6.00:
Mzee Rutamwebwa suggested that Salim Saleh should go back to school if the objectives of the action are to be achieved. He suggested that Salim Saleh had to get "0" Level Certificate and "A" Level Certificate. This was unanimously agreed to.
He also suggested that someone close, possibly the son of H.E. should be groomed to take over the reigns from Salim Saleh. This too was agreed on and the group begged H.E. to look around for a boy who would be groomed.
The group also brainstormed about how to destroy those who would gang up to take power from the clan. Death was suggested for the potential leaders who would attempt to fail the master plan.
Mmute 7.00: The way Forward:
a) Deny other people access to economic resources through:
i. Overtaxing individuals and companies, which don't belong to our people and protect those of our people.
ii. Destroying co-operative societies and unions.
iii. Selling Parastatals and public enterprises that others don't gain from them.
iv. Commercialize education and health services.
b) Our people to be employed in lucrative public offices from which they should reap maximally while being protected from prosecution.
c) Destruction of the economic, military and political will of Northern and Eastern Uganda.
d) Immediate return of non-political Kabaka of Buganda while we promote disunity among the Buganda.
e) Uniting all Bahima in the Great Lakes Region and awakening their political, military and economic process.
f) Participating in the exploitation of economic resources of rich neighboring states.
g) Making strategic alliances with whatever power in the world that will enhance achievement of this plan.
Minute 8.00:
Members recommended that all those given responsibility must ensure the achievement of the objectives. H.E. was mandated to appoint committees or individuals to implement the different aspects of the master plan. Confidentiality must be ensured at all costs.
The meeting closed at 4.00a.m. on 16-03-1992.
Readers Comments:
12 Dec 2007
1.
I can't believe you dismissed the HIMA plan. I was born in Mbarara and I was aware of what was going on when Obote abolished the Kigdoms. The Bahima are the most dicriminative people I know on this earth. The meetng was spot on, Ugandans should wake up!
I told you Capt Babula was killed by Museveni not AIDS! Do you still think that all those prominent people who died, died of AIDS? No way, they were killed by poison slowly and the doctors of Museveni did the job for him in the name of treating the deadly virus.
Kiyonga was recently praised for not having anything on him. Who did the destroying of Mulago? That is why Museveni told his doctors that he does not trust any Ugandan doctor, because he used them confortably.
Please Ugandans you have slept a lot while meetings were and still carried out by the HIMA clan in the middle of the night.
I have just written to you about the 40% that Museveni asks from investors. Please, please, If I was in the hospital that day I would have befriended the Indian man to get to the truth of it and evidence.
2.
Dear Mr. Editor, In referrence the Hima Clan Plan, how could you think that this was not important to Ugandans? As a northern, we always believe that Museveni's intention is mainly to eliminate the Acholi tribe and my God tells me that the Hima tribe will now face the rest of the Ugandans. Thank you.
3.
Dear Radio Katwe,
The document "Hima Clan Master Plan Conspiracy" is not necessary a true documentation though for some of us who have worked closely with M7 as far back as 1972 till now, the contents were correctly predicated similar to Animal Farm.
This documentation first came to our desk (PPU Intelligence Office) in Entebbe during the elections of 2001. Our agents tried to find the source considering that what it was stating was true, but none of us could remember that meeting taking place.
Yes, in all meetings which M7 conducts with us the Bahima (not that he is one), he emphasizes the need to promote as many Bahimas as possible both in civil and military institutions and we have our own training camps such as the forest in Bihanga Western Uganda.
What scared us most in intelligence in Entebbe and Kampala State House was the accuracy of what was being stated and we found it difficult to pin anyone since all that was said was actually happening.
Well, not all of us approve of what has happened and most Bahima are trying as much as possible to distance themselves.
The particular meeting did not take place but M7 has at one time or other told each of those people on how he sees the Himas progressing.
All the best, Ugandans need to know what has happened.
Capt. Vincent
4.
THE HIIMA MEETING SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED. THAT IS WHY NOW YOU SEE THEY ARE IMPLIMATING WHAT THEY PASSED IN THA MEETING. THEY HAVE THE BEST JOBS, THE HIGHEST RANKS IN THE SECURITY FORCES, ETC. NOW, THEY HAVE BROUGHT THE BALAALO TO GRAB OUR LAND.
LET ME ADVISE THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY PLAYING WITH. LET THEM LOOK AT THE PALESTINES AND THE ISRAEL ARE UP TO NOW STILL FIGHTING. WHEN YOU LOOK CAREFULLY, THE LAND WAS REMOVED FROM THEM BUT SLOWLY , THE ARE GETING IT BACK.
OBOTE TOOK EVERY THING FROM THE KINGDOMS, BUT M7 GAVE IT BACK. BUT NOW HE WANTS TO TAKE EVERY THING FROM ALL UGANDANS. YOU CAN OCCUPIE THE LAND, BUT YOU CANNOT CARRY IT WITH YOU.
AMIN KICKED OUT THE INDIANS , M7 BROUGHT THEM BACK AND THEY GOT ALL THEIR THINGS THOUGH THEY HAD BEEN COMPESETED.
ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO WILL TAKE OUR LAND , WILL LOOSE EVERY THING THEY WILL DO ON THAT LAND. YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT LEADERS COME, LEADERS GO. M7 WILL GO AND YOU WILL GO WITH HIM. WE SHALL NOT TAKE YOUR LIFE. WE JUST WANT OUR LAND. YOU ARE WARNED.
13 Dec 2007
5.
Dear Editor,
The circulation of the Hima clan master plan affected many people in our last elections and it was an eye opener to Ugandans. People who supported Museveni lost miserably in the north and east because of this document.The document has been implemented in its entirety and it is true that this plan exists even if some people want to deny it now.
Why did Salim Saleh and government blog/block Radio Katwe? This document touched the core of Museveni and Bahima plan and they were shocked that it had leaked out. Some people have probably lost their lives and livelihoods because of the leakage.
Do not dismiss this letter let Ugandans read it and decide for themselves what is good and right.Thankyou katwe for this high level and standard publicity.
6.
Dear Radio KAtwe.
I was a first year student Mbarara University when the HIMA document first came to public. If my memory can do me a service at least for now, it was ENTASI (A Runyakore weekly newspaper) that first published the document in Runyankole of course.
Infact all the copies that Entasi publication released for that issue were all bought out by PPU (Presidential Press Unit) and others intercepted along highways as they were being delivered to Kampala and other sides of the country. I was lucky, because during the night before the paper came out I had met one of the editors in Vision night club and snatched a copy from him.
Its this copy and only my copy that remained in circulation after PPU disimantled virtually everything the Entasi publications Ltd had at that time. the headline of the paper was
ORUKWE: ABAHIIMA KUTEGYEKA EMYAKA 50
7.
Thanks Radio Katwe for the 'BAHIMA document". About five years ago, I heard about this document. later, I had the chance of reading it. interestingly, many of the 'resolutions' from this meeting have come to pass. don't take it lightly. I hail from Rukungiri and I personally know most of the Rukungiri people mentioned who attended the said meeting. I know there is a hidden plan of these Bahima taking over Uganda as their personal property. what have'nt we seen so far?
A.G.
Rukungiri
8.
Fellow Ugandans,
This exploitation of Ugandans is too much. The Hima clan agenda of stealing land is being implimentated with such ruthlessness and injustice. In Buliisa large chunks of land are being taken by the so called Balaaro since no one is there to defend the poor Banyoro. When they tried to defend their land, the police came down on them so hard that they had to give up. The government has turned a deaf ear on the Bagungu's(The natural inhabitants of the area) plea since these "superior people" are being protected by untouchable government officers. I was further disheartened to read that the forest reserves are being encroached on at will despite the warnings from NFA. Please please help us. Hon. Beatrice A. shadow MP for Environment, was your only task Mabira forest? Will you let these Balaaro get away with this. Ugandans what can we do. Reading radio Katwe is not enough
Concerned ugandan
9.
Editors,
Thank you Radio Katwe for bringing out the satanic verses in the M7 fundamental change. The Hima master plan is freaky. Is that why they pounced on Dr. Besigye when he dared stand against the evil incarnate in 2001 and 2006(Minutes 6)? Note: No.6 is the devil's number that is why death was recommended for potential leaders who would attempt to fail the master plan.
Is that why they want to exterminate the Acholis through IDP Minutes 7 (c)? During the Cold War era the Chinese said one American may kill a Chinese but one million Chinese will kill one American. The Bahima may masculate and try to supress the rest of Ugandans, but now that the cat has been let out of the basket they better prepare for the consequences. There are consequences for every action. Hitler thought he was smart but the consequences was unforgetable.
There is a price to pay for the divide and rule ideology. The Europeans divided up Africa to rule and exploit it but time came and they were driven out. M7 and co. may divide, exploit and rule Ugandans especially the Baganda (Minutes 7 [d]), but now that we know, the message will spread like wild fire and Ugandans will unite against the Hima and run them out of town. Note: Ugandans are used to violent change. It only takes a spark to start an inferno. Ask Taban Amin. Ask Abdala Nasur. Ask Lutwa in his grave.
ESO, ISO, DISO PPU operatives please ask the the State Research goons who evaporated when Kampala fell on 11 April 1979. They even did not know the direction to their home town. The weak and even the slave will overthrow the mighty. If you are true Ugandan do not tempt fate. Let the foreigners play their inhumane game games.
10.
Fellow Ugandans, I'm 100% in support of Hon.Beatrice. A. For how low long are we going to sit on our back side and watch M7 and his Hima people match throughout Uganda? It is good to be informed of the destruction this thug is coursing in our country, but action must happen now! Despite all the atrosities M7 is coursing the out world has turned a blind eye on him.
The Hima action plan is not a laughting matter, look at his cabinets! a lot of people heard about it "the so called 50yrs action plans". All along Ugandans thought that those destroying the country were the northerners (Acholi) now you know the whole truth. Destruction done in the whole of Acholiland was one of the action plan. Just to disabled Acholi people because to M7 they are threat.
Remember, Hitler thought he would wipe out the Jews from the face of the earth, but now what? the most powerful people on the planet are the Jews! check it out. Acholi people will pick up the pieces and walk again. The whole world is talking about the environmental change and for M7 he is destroying the natural beauty of Uganda! Mabira forest on his agenda moving from district to district next before you notice the man will sell the whole country. Let's all wake up and do something now.
11.
Dear, Radio Katwe,
Thank you for the good work you are doing out there.
But I have one complaint which I must tell u so that you tell the whole world from Karamoja to Kisoro.
You remember when we were in the bush ,you were busy sleeping with your wives,eating pork at local pubs and singing UPC..........................................
NOW WE DECIDED TO LIBERATE OURSELVES BY PUSHING THOSE NORTHERNERS OUT BY FORCE,
1.WE ARE MUCH EDUCATED NOW
2.WE ARE RICH
3.WE ARE ENJOYING STATE RESOURCES
4.WE MATTER IN SOCEITY.
Its now up to you to liberate yourselves,dont talk much our money has bought most feared men like,Ochola Walter,ANYWAR, ERESU,Atubo,Ogwal,Malinga,Awori,the list is big....................................................................
Ijust pity you guys
We are here to stay.
Kahiima mwene Rutembana.
12.
Dear Radio Katwe,
ThankU a lot for the free valuation info. you guys are giving Ugandans.
Hima CLan Materplan.
AM reacting to this Imbesile, Moron, Idiot called Kahiima mwene Rutembana. It deflated my Heart & Life Altogether. That kind of arrogance can never go unpurnished. They Guy is full of IGNORANCE & Arrogance. Enjoy but you will pay dearly when time comes. Let the Ogwals, Aworis, Echwerus, pot bellied Ochora Walters of this world & others mentioned by this idiot flaming hatred among us Uganadans, read the mans motives & open up their eyes to reality.
Do you realise that when Echweru Moses (Hon.) started beating up these Balaalos in Teso wetlands, his mouth was stuffed with Bread (a ministerial post), alas where is they guy? he is damn quite.
M7 is intent to impoverise all Ugandans except his clan, so that poverty can bite hard on the most brilliant of our pple in the Northern & Eastern Uganda to surrender to the fungs of the deadly cobra (M7). With poverty, a person's faucalties of life become un functional, disjointed, redundant. And critical natural reasoning (self judgement) becomes impaired & horrificly dwafted. Thats why an impoverished person will never think of developmental ideas but gets preoccupied with thinking about survival. Havent ever heard poor pple talking "for us we only need something for a living (survival).
Awori also started reasoning idiotically on talk shows in support of the most clandestine move by M7 to destroy our Uganda. They Guy is looting our GOD given resources with any remorse for us the citizens. He will pay as well dearly.
Let him think of what happened to Mobotu (former Zaire), Charles Taylor (Liberia),Sani Abacha, the list is long, he is surely following suit.
To be Sincere, am very ANNOYED & DISTURBED. (i've good very friends from western Uganda, guys lets unite against M7, who wants to divide us & generate a Rwandan like Genocide in Uganda, we shall kill U if you dont distance yourslves from this THUGS (M7 & Clan).
God Bless U radio Katwe & Ugandans. But let the Devil destroy the Hima Clan.
13.
SOMETHING FISHY IN RADIO KATWE.
Dear Radio Katwe,
Am suspecting somebody (people) are trying to begin to use this media to brew some evil. Read
You remember when we were in the bush ,you were busy sleeping with your wives,eating pork at local pubs and singing UPC..........................................
NOW WE DECIDED TO LIBERATE OURSELVES BY PUSHING THOSE NORTHERNERS OUT BY FORCE,
1.WE ARE MUCH EDUCATED NOW
2.WE ARE RICH
3.WE ARE ENJOYING STATE RESOURCES
4.WE MATTER IN SOCEITY.
Its now up to you to liberate yourselves,dont talk much our money has bought most feared men like,Ochola Walter,ANYWAR, ERESU,Atubo,Ogwal,Malinga,Awori,the list is big....................................................................
Ijust pity you guys
We are here to stay.
This provocative statements do not seem to come from a true Ugandan who loves his/her country. An evil and rotten government doesn't mean all those who benefit in it are criminals. There are some people who sing the praise of the state in a way of saving their own skins while others are one living deads, ie late Mayombo who very well knew that he was serving an ill government but did so even against his own likes by persecuting innocent lives as his was pending on the list.
The writter (above) should not insinuate violence and provoc Uganda against all Bahima and those he has named above. Not all the benficiaries are evil like the Big demon. We still have good bahimas who are usefull to the Country. they are our brothers and sister.
To fight for a just cause doesn't call for division along tribal, ethnic and regional lines when we all know the Lucifer in the country is on M7 and his family with few others.
The man who claims to be a Muhima to brag over their achieved wealth MUST be one of those WAR mongers who want to benifit from another conflict-so will he get an equal share of what he cries for.
"FOR GOD AND MY COUNTRY"
14 Dec 2007
Dear reader (comment 13)
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. There exists a lot of fellow Ugandans who believe like "Kahiima mwene Rutembana". We may disagree strongly with them, but they have a right to air their views. No one should be afraid of wrong ideas, or seek to supress them. The better way is to have them in the open then out reason the man then we can get rid of such foolishness. You never know if he is a reasonable person he will change his thinking to the better way.
Every Ugandan has a right of assembly to organise themselves in clans, tribes or other societies as office workers or school mates (OBs). Collective efforts are good for our country because we are very poor and need each others support.
As our Bahima friends, we all want our children to be well educated, get good jobs and live a good life. So if our brothers want to meet as Basita clan and promote education and so on, that is positive development which should be encouraged.
But for us what we are against is how these people go about doing it. This Musevenism way of stealing, killing and grabbing is completely wrong and what we are fighting against. Anyway the man has been a life long bandit, liar and schemer, so we cannot expect more of him.
It is wrong and a crime to steal our government (tax) money to use for your private ends. We pay taxes so that the government can build schools etc everywhere to educate our children. That money is not for a select few to be educated free at our expense. If you want to sponsor your clan members, raise your own private money and use it. Our European and American friends give us grants and loans which are stolen for private ends, this is a crime against Uganda and you will pay for it. Don't think buying property in London, Brussels and America you are now safe. You are going to be followed forever.
It is a crime against all Ugandans, to lock out other qualified people from jobs because you want to promote your own private agenda. We cannot accept this primitive sectarianism. Work must be on merit, and we are going to fight against this primitive way of giving unqualified people big jobs using tribes and cronysm.
If you want to be the richest, well, no one can stop you. You try your best. But going around and grabbing the wealth of Buganda, grabbing our industries, banks and government property is very stupid and will never get you anywhere. It is theft and one time or the other, you will be forced to "vomit" it. Ugandans are watching, you can feel that you are so clever and untouchable but it is only a matter of time before things change like night to day. The right way to be rich is work hard, get your own money and use it wisely to become rich. Not this primitive way of looting and plunder like savages.
It is your right as any Ugandan to aspire to high offices like army commander and president. But you have to follow the right way. Saying that only a certain people should be the president and other competitors should be killed is treason. These are the kind of policies that keep us fighting and unstable for the next centuries.
They now misuse our security like Police, army and intelligence to spy on us, beat us, detain us illegally for years, torture and kill us. Not knowing that this monster will tomorrow be feeding on themselves. To be shortsighted, ill-educated men is very costly. Instead of developing we stay in the same backward state for 40 years!!
"kahiima" comments might be provocative, but if we control ourselves we can see that instead such people should be pitied, their days will be short and bitter. It shows how little education they have. This is how backward peasants reason, they see life only in terms of being envied by others but inside they know themselves that they are nothing. He thinks if he is driving a big car and living in a big house from stolen money and others are suffering or giving him false praises, then he has made it. Such a person is very shortsighted and needs to be rescued from his deep ignorance and backwardness. We must put him in prison (for stealing), but we also feel sorry for him because his mind is really small.
So you allow them to speak what they want.
By Radio Katwe
14.
Dear Editor,
The Hima clan conspiracy master plan to imperialise, divide, exploit and rule Uganda; for purposes of benefiting the few Basita clan is believable. In the last 15 years except objective five (5), which Radio Katwe has decided to publish, 99% of the the four (4)objectives have already been achieved:
- To have the highest education qualifications during his term of office for their children.
- To make sure they are the richest people in Uganda with the 50 years master plan.
- To make sure they control the army and have the highest ranks in the army.
- To ensure that they take charge of all the resources in the country
- To ensure none of those not concerned, not to know about the action plan.
Examples of agents of divide, plunder and rule:
- I start with Omara Atubo and the land question. He betrayed his party UPC and crossed over to to replaced Otafiire as Minister of Land. Otafiire (Bairu) successfully parceled out Butabika land to the Basita race. If anything goes wrong with the land question he Atube will be a perfect scapgoat.
- Prof. Apolo Nsibambi has been appended to Omara Atubo, in order to acquire 40,000 hectares of land in Amuru district to Madhvani to grow sugarcane (The Daily Monitor 4th Dec 2007). Since the Hima clan wants to get rich at all costs, why doesn't Nsibambi take Madhvani to Kiruhura, Bushenyi, Ntungamo or Buloba (his land) instead of Acholiland? Besides Otafiire would benefit instead of smuggling sugar. The Acholis are not in a hurry to get rich. They want to settle and take charge of their lives after a devasting genocide masterminded by the Basita clan.
- Kahiima Rutembana rightly said so, Pot belly Walter Ochora and Otema Awany all Acholis were bought and presided over the destruction of their people and conniving with Salim Saleh to fence off land in Amuru District. After a failed Plan for Modernization Agriculture PMA, the Basita who have nothing to do with agriculture threw it at Hon Hillary Onek an Acholi. Instead of being given what he knows best in the energy sector - a hydrology engineer who could have solved Uganda's endemic energy crisis - he was thrown in Agriculture with no money to implement anything.
- Prof. Kiddu Makubuya the Attorney General a Muganda is in place to implement the new land law that will see Baganda lose their land to "batembeyi" Balalos. And Tamale Mirundi the Presidential Press Secretary is the paid piper who plays according to the masters' call.
- Dr. Ruhakana Rugunda a Mukiga- a non Hima as Minister of Internal Affairs is doing the dirty work to silence the opposition less they (opposition) scatter the 50-year plan.
- Otafiire a Bairu is in charge of Local Government, which is the largest Ministry. Although he is the top dog, but the one driving the reversal of the decentralization programme is Mrs. Mwesigye. It is therefore not suprising that Kampala City will soon be handed over to Basita sharks to take whatever piece of land they want. (It is so nice to be your own landlord!)
- Least but not last; after Jim Muhweizi got a big catch: Global and Gavi funds, Dr. Malinga a Muteso sold his soul, betrayed his party UPC to take charge of health. From now onwards, whatever goes wrong Malinga a Easterner is to blame. On the Commercialization of education and medical service Minutes 7, former press Secretary Onapito Ekomoloit (aka Ona)a Muteso from Kumi is a paid piper on the payroll of the Hima clan master.
All the above and others at large have betrayed their country for pieces of silver.
15.
How are you Beloved Katwe
am not shocked with the HIMA master plan.as a Tutsi the only way to survive forever is to acquire money and education as long as Museveni lasts. infact i will vote for him for the 4th kisanja.
For Kagame , this tall emaciated uneducated war monger has betrayed the Us . he wants to enrich his family not Tutsi people as a clan. so Kaguta is helping us thats why rwandan looters are bringing their loot to Uganda.
instead of educating the Tutsi kids, Kagame is grabing them to go for military training when they lack education and have persitently died in cross fire inside DRC.
Kagame lacks a sense of belonging and blood solidarity,thats why he isnt popular in rwanda.
infact Museveni should allow us the Tutsis to have Ugandan passports after all we have even become congolese.
In the next fity years we shall have revived the CHwezi Dynasty once we secure the EAC federation there will be nothing like visas to go to Kenya, UG, TZ and so on.
HIMA master plan is good based on money and education thats what we call the HIMA EBYAFFEE or EBYAITU.
EXTREMIST TUTSI
15 Dec 2007
16.
HIMA MASTER PLAN
If as a Clan, Tribe, Nation, you don't have a conspiracy theory, you cannot go anywhere!
Ugandans should be greatful thak Kony went to the bush and stayed there, and that the Acholi's bore the brunt of the Hima butchers, however absourd it may sound, they should actually stay there and helped out, so that the people of Uganda may be redeemed! For so God loved the people of Uganda that he gave them his only people!
The people who brought Ugandans problem are the Baganda for thinking in Museveni,they woul exel.He duped them into Kabakaship and land return, while pulling the rug right off under their feet! They have their Kabaka, and nothing else! The land are being disected by the Bahima! Infact am amazed some Baganda still don't get it. They're still tribalistic toward Notherners because Museveni drove this wedge!
17.
From: jkigyagi@parliament.go.ug
Cc: member@parliament.go.ug, staff@parliament.go.ug
Subject: Re: Nyabusozi Meeting
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:37:31 +0300
I want to inform you once again that Uganda and President Museveni are now well above those hate messages and info which you are fabricating. As i told you earlier i now confirm that you and your group have a very serrious mental illiness and you need to be helped by those who know you. If you could tell me who you are i would assit but since you hide, i have no way of getting to you. People who have such mental illness dont know that they are ill and even when you meet them u will not tell. You have to spend sometime with them to establish their handcap. As Honourable Buturo said, i now agree that you people who write such nonsense are possesed by some demon. This stupid info which you have sent us is not new. When Museveni stood for Presidenncy in 2001, your group dropped the same info all over the country but people rubbished it, so why are you wasting your time once again?
Please visit a mental specialist cos you are VERY VERY SICK.
Kigyagi John(MP)
18.
It appears the 50 year
Hima plan is true since some people have come out to defend it. Why must some selfish clan sit around in the president's house and plan to exploit a whole country for the benefit of a few thousand whose origin are under scrutny. This is treason. Museveni is committing treason. And this has pissed me off.
Here is a final solution for this nonsense: secession, secession, secession; not even federation. After secession nobody will complain about tribe X, tribe Z is dominating and killing us. Through self-determination we we shall be better off. If Rwanda tiny as it is can be a country why not Acholi sub-region? Sao Tome is a country with only 60,000, there is also Linkenstein in the middle of Europe aren't they are managing? isn't the Vatican a country in its right? Yugoslavia spintered so what? Etheopia and Eretria parted way so what? Uganda can go the same path.
There is nothing wrong with seccession since there are always reason for it: oppression and exploitation by negative dominant forces. There is already seccession taking place in Uganda in name divide and rule by proliferating new districts. Purely for purposes of political expedience of the Hima pest.
Hussein Kyanjo and Norbert Mao have already openly said it. Let the Baganda, the Banyoro and the North seceed and we see what these pests wants to plunder.
The Banyoro who have suffered since Kabalega time will be free to exploit the oil. The Banyoro better wake up would you? The Basita 50-year plan is in writing! Read it. How come it is the PGB guarding your oil field and not some private security organization or the police? Remember they are conspiring to gang up with powerful Western countries in order to fulfill thier 50-year plan.
If the north seceds today, there will be no loss. After all, in the last 20 years they were not benefiting from the country Uganda. And Uganda as a country was not benefiting from it. These people have been stereotyped are looked upon as nuisance. That sub-region was and is still being taken care of by NGOs, not the NRM government. If the government is there it is only eying and mapping out what chank of land they can grab in the name of investment.
What use is a region that can't be exploited to fulfill the Hima empire? Impoverish the people, depopulate and take it over. There were no taxes being collected and the government was only offering lip services. If the government gave any fund it was stollen and raked back by the Basita clan through their local agents. How many rehabilitation programmes have been initiated for purposes of the north, and yet there is nothing on the ground? The beneficiaries are just the Prime Ministers Officials.
To heck. Let the Baganda, Bairu, Banyoro, the Northerners, Easterners and others deny the cold blooded Hima thier dream to dominate us. If We seced they will be forced to go back and roam their baren land or go to Rwanda and Burundi to slaughter themselves.
Mad at you Kigyagi John and Nsaba Buturo(MP)s
19.
KIGYAGI,YOU FAILED TO TELL PEOPLE THE LIES RADIO KATWE IS PUBLISHIG. INSTEAD, YOU DROPED YOUR DIPLOMACY AND BEHAVED LIKE E MUYAAYE.
TELL US WHAT LIES RADIO KATWE IS PUBLISHING? WHAT I WILL DO, I WILL LOOK FOR A BRAIN DONNER BECAUSE YOU NEED A BRAIN TRANSPLANT. BY THE WAY, HOW DID YOU MAKE TO THE PARLIAMENT? A MAN WHITH A BABY"S BRAIN. I PITY THE PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT.YOU HAVE WHAT WE CALL VABOL DIARHEA. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, PLEASE DO NOT SAY IT.
DR.KATWE....CANADA
16 Dec 2007
20.
Hima Clan Master Plan Consipiracy,
Dear Radio Katwe,
must congratulate you on your well balanced and civilized response to comment 13. Kahima mwene Rutembane and indeed the so called member of Parliament John Kigyagi both show imaturity politically.they are just behaving as vultures always there waiting for a kill to grap whatever meat they can get their hands on.they only feed from what M7 throws or kills and as long as their mouth are fed they do not care at all.
History repeats itself and the Hima clan should take note of Mobutu. he amassed a lot of wealth for himself and family/clan but did he in the end come to enjoy any of them! the Basita clan and all those who lick their boots will face the same fate. their time is running out and grabing anything more now is of little use.
we are not mad at all but the opposite is true Mr J.Kiyagi.take a close look at yourself
18 Dec 2007
21.
Topic:Hima master plan
dear editor, i hereby want you to convey my sincere thanks to Hon. Kigyagi and Kahiima for coming out to defend the cause of the people who have suffered and sacrifised their lives to see the light in Uganda which they latter achieved.
if we keep abusing people like Kigyagi who have become members of Radio katwe then we are sending a wrong message and the perception on the usefulness of this media.
i dont think its wise one to keep shouting and expect no return if we behave and try to argue in an open minded way and we distance ourselves with abusive languages then it would probably help us to understand why so may horrible things are happening in our beloved country Uganda.
if you could remember very well during the Obote regime the Bahima were no where in the government and if you expect a Muhima to be in power with alot of Notherners and and Easterners in service then am puzzled.
if whatever you say does really happen which i dont believe then iam sorry for you it maybe some individuals who are paying you back with the same currency you used like panda gari, funguwa mulango, Rape, looting and killings in those days some of you should be ashamed of your selves on the atrocities that you commited in your times.
everyone has freedom of speech and even cruel minds are accepted in society but it would not be wise for one even to preach ''snipping'' but i would say it was slip of keyboard or a writting error and maybe edited as ''shaping'' which is atleast an appropriate word required in the reconciliation and peace building for the development of our country which i think is one of the objectives Radio katwe is working towards so that even those in the diaspora can have an insight on what is happening in Uganda which i realy see is not as bad as its potrayed by the extremists and fallen apart units and feel that the only way to express their anger is to express it here on Radio katwe lets use this mean as a learning from one another tool.
longlive Katwe long live Museveni.
Ray - a concerned citizen
22.
Cheer Up! Radio Katwe.
Good job for your tireless effort to keep Ugandans informed about their motherland and the corrupt leaders. For everything there is a time and for every time there is a thing.
Uganda is still to suffer for sometime not until they get a leader who shall put the country and her people at heart by uniting all tribes. It is not possible unless God is with that Person.
Concerning Museveni and his Master Plan, a wicked mans' plan dies with him. A Prophet said he was chosen by God, I don't disagree. Remember Biblical King Saul was also chosen by God and later he sinned and he was totally destroyed by all his family, relatives and friends. So let Museveni and his cronies pick a lesson or two from that story and try to change their ways of Leading Ugandans. That may happen to him if his master plan of enriching, educating and sabotaging the rest of Ugandans in preference for the Bahima Clan.
Long Live Ugandans,
Long Live Radio katwe.
23.
I was thinking that you do not publish articles of the so called honorables (actually, horribles). They do not logically defend themselves to elite Ugandans. This is a forum where people talk without fear but he decided to show his identity and now we cannot trust what he is saying simply because he would be fearing his bosses. Kigagi, this is not a laughing matter ! If you know that you cannot handle do not talk. Simple!. You are bound to bring problems for yourself.
Eng. Dak.
From Kinkizi
24.
Dear Radio Katwe,
I congratulate you for updating us but unfortunately I have a hima friend whom I love dearly! Its true what you are talking about the bahima plan. I am non muhima but my girlfriend is a muhima so her family is as well. Not to take you far this girl loves me she even lied her parents that my late parents were bahima so that they could accept me.
Now am accepted in the family. I happened to get a security Job in Iraq but if i tell you the truth the place is full of ugandans mostly who are bahima whatever they tell me I just keep silent because I dont want them to know that am not a muhima.
But the truth Bahima have done it all and they are planning really to take other ugandans for a ride! why aint they taking all ugandan tribes to Iraq to earn good money like the bahima are doing? Is it because the company is owned by Mrs Salim Jovia but using Kayonga her sister since Jovia is in the black books of America due to Congo deals!
These people who are working in Iraq most of them are bahimas coming from deep in the villages ! So ugandans we have to be careful or let us ask our God to change Musevens heart to have a feeling for non Bahima coz we are also human beings.
I remember when the late Obote was in power so many banyankole enjoyed almost as much as the northerners.... Thanks Radio Katwe but its sad not all ugandans read your news or can you open up something for non internet users.
Have a blessed Xmas and the 2008 cheers.
C. O.
25.
Dear Editor,
It has become very difficult to remain sober after reading the shocking revelation about the president of the republic of Uganda, as having had a sectarian clan meeting in his house to lay strategic plan how to suck the country's resources to enrich the Basita Hima clan.
Now my biggest question is, where are the people's representatives in the opposition and other NRM leaders who are not members of this clan? Why hasn't this document become a rallying point to put the president and those alleged participated to task? Are our representatives that spineless?
It is 15 years since this event took place, but unfortunately the opposition continues to procrastinate even when the opportunity to turn the table on the NRM comes. They continue to suffer humiliation even when they have political weapons like corruption and this particular Pandora box supplied by their adversary.
The 50-year Hima conspiracy is a threat to national security. It is treason as one reader put it. Why doesn't the opposition waive this document before parliament in order to get a response from the executive before we are enslaved or else the rest of the country will turn their fury against innocent Bahima who are not part of the conspiracy?
Before the ink dries, Andrew Mwenda's First Issue of Independent News Magazine was out on 17th Dec 2007 with another damaging conspiracy involving the same president Museveni over Gavi fund (Museveni Vs Muhwezi). What is the parliament going to do about it? We are waiting to see what the opposition and other NRM MPs will do about this revelation. Even though the Gavi fund scandal is in court; if parliament can't put the president to task based on this allegation then we have ceased to be a country. The president has been left to do whatever he wants regardless of the law, which he swore to protect. Given so many scandalous records in this regime this president is impeachable. Our misfortune is that we only have spaghetti spine legislators that can't stand up for what is right.
19 Dec 2007
26.
Following my comments on the document (comment no.7, Hima clan Master Plan Conspiracy), I have a noticed a few corrections I've made on spellings of names & places on the "list of conspiracy". Corrections are in CAPITALS.
Do you realize most of the members are related? (check the names) and even more have joined the 'lucky' families thru marriages! Its almost like about only eight families which attended the meeting! I know most of those from Rukungiri.
No.7 Mr. KATEMBWE (former NSSF boss)
No.19 Mrs. BITANUZIRE
No.20 Mugisha Muhwezi NYINDOMBI (RDC Jinja)
No.35 Charles Muhhozi KITABURAZA
No.41. Mathew RUKIKAIRE
No.42. Mrs. RUKIKAIRE (from RUKUNGIRI, has land in KABURA, Rakai)
No.55 Brig. CHEF ALI
No.61. Mzee Kaino, from NYAKINENGO
No.62 & 63 Rev. Rujoki, from NSHWERENKYE, Kiruhuura
No.73 Hope KIVENGERE
No.74 Bishop Justus RUHINDI, from RUKUNGIRI
No.76 Mama Beatrice RUHINDI
Good reading!
A.G,
Rukungiri
27.
whatever is happening in uganda God knows.
This is to address the issue of the plan by the Bahima.Yes i believe that they had the meeting but its too bad the man Museveni who is believed to have been our liberator to betray us. All that was discussed in the meeting is what is happening and this is so sad. I always tell my friends,"we have read many literature book and watched movies about african nationalism and all these have at least contained a statement by the Africans saying OUR TIME WILL COME, i believe our time will come and all this suffering will be no more.
These people are shameless,they are heard in different place boasting around how they are the owners of everything, they look down on all the other tribes, employment, social services are all just acquired by chance. Museveni as a man wouldn't be a bad person but the people who work for him are responsible for everything and tomorrow their sons and daughters are going to pay.....for sure they are going to pay. The grief that the people have is just kept to their hearts because they are helpless, the army, the police and other powerful institutions are owned by "those people"therefore there is no power,but as i said OUR TIME WILL COME.
20 Dec 2007
28.
Hima Clan Master Plan
Reply to 'Concerned Citizen Ray': [See Comment 21 above -Ed]
I need to ask how is it that readers are abusing people like Kigyagi?? If l remember correctly, Kigyagi's first contribution (together with his dear Hon. Buturo) was to write that: 'The people who originate the info in Katwe are certainly sick in the head or they have some special handcap which i cant find a word for.'
Buturo agreed, writing: '...I have found that there is a spirit or demon which specializes in attempting to turn lies into truths...It recruits willing souls who then propagate its lies. Sadly, it is on rampage in our land and the victims are our people's minds and subsequent utterances.' (Check News in Brief-12 Dec 2007).
Now, these 'Government Officials', instead of challenging in a manner befitting their 'positions', whatever views they disagree with, stoop to that level & insult readers! What do you expect already angry readers to do?
This is the problem with Uganda today: it's OK for corrupt, incompetent government parasites to loot the country dry in broad daylight, and insult, laugh at the rest of us at the same time. But the minute you open your mouth to complain, you are accused of being disrespectful, or sick in the head.
Secondly, Ray. You wrote: 'if you could remember very well during the Obote regime the Bahima were no where in the government and if you expect a Muhima to be in power with alot of Notherners and and Easterners in service then am puzzled.'
Sir, when Ugandans begin to realise that Uganda is for all Ugandans, that is when we just may begin to move forward. It should be about the individual, his/her merits (not his/her tribe) in power. Until then you can never convince me you truly love Uganda, if you think otherwise. Because then you will look like you only 'love' Uganda when your tribe is in power, because then your tribe can 'eat'.
You know, I hoped that M7, when he came into power, would have learnt from Uganda's turbulent past, and tried to make sure history does not repeat itself. Well, Ray, he did learn a lot. He learnt that his people should be first to 'eat', he made sure he has amassed huge personal wealth (just in case), he learnt to be brutal/ruthless, to bribe his way through. Basically, by any means neccessary. You may choose not to believe this Ray, but the killings, the lootings, the intimidations you wrote about in the past, they are very much thriving today.
Uganda has never had a peaceful transition of power. We are still waiting/ hoping it will happen. I personally do not see it happening.
UgandanObserver
29.
HIMA MASTER PLAN
I don't take the master plan lightly because some things I was told about some years back, have come to pass.
Around 2003, a friend of mine who is close to some 'big fishes' in gov't told me of some information she secretly heard about 'plans' for land in Uganda. She advised me that if I have land but has no land title, I should rush and get a land title very soon. she said there was a sinister move by some "sharp" people to slowly grab people's land especially those lands with no titles. So to be on the safe side, one had to acquire a land title.
From the way she expressed herself, she looked troubled and I clearly sensed that there was danger. I later told friends & colleagues to get land titles for their lands, but I never told them why.
Now a few years down the road, we've seen all sorts of orchestrated drama, from the balaalo invading Teso (remember the ones Musa Ecweru caned?!) to those in Arua, the chaos in Buliisa, the land bonanza in Kampala - Shimoni, UBC, Butabika, Luzira prison, etc. And then I recall what my good friend told me. So it was planned long ago.
In short, don't take the master plan lightly. Already some of the resolutions have come into effect, others are happening.
Cry, the beloved Country.
A.G,
Rukungiri.
30.
Hima clan and Tutsi. I have always told my fellow Ugandans how Tutsi and Hima will ever get together. They just promised each other to get to power and help Rwandans go back home or couldn't stand being two masters in the same country.
Those Bairu who grew up in Ankole know very well how those two peoples couldn't stand each other. I'm sure it goes to Rukungiri, Ngoma and other places where the Balalo/Bahima ended up. These two took advantage of the little knowledge the Baganda and other tribes in Uganda had about them.
Museveni used divide and rule and claimed to the Baganda, West Nilers while in Luwero to fight Obote. The two didn't realise Museveni was using them comfortably to pursue his own agenda of destroying the whole of Uganda.
He then started on the Easterners when he got to power, how smart?, In the end he made Uganda his own personal property. When he came to power he had origially promised to give back all the Kingdoms, but didn't give back the Ankole Kingdom. I kept asking my fellow Ugandans why? Their reply was naive, he fears us "because we are powerful" (Baganda). My answer was no; he just didn't want to bring back the old Bairu and Bahima clash.
Unfortunately Besigye brought back exactly that. Bairu realised that actually Omuhima will always be Omuhima - simple! Now thats why Radio katwe can get the facts of what has been going on. Have you noticed before Mayombo' death no politician ever mentioned poison? It is Museveni who is now saying it himself and opening people's eyes how poison has been comfortably used in Uganda and ouside to elliminate "BIPANGAMIZI" (sabotuers/enemies).
Not HIV = AIDS as many have been made to believe for the last two decades. The man got used to traumatising Ugandans and they run to him for safety. In Luwero it went on for years and he enjoyed every single bit of seeing people suffer. He is still enjoying Ugandans suffering around the world on Kyeyo! He then calls them back with an offer of his amnesty and beautiful jobs. Ugandans think you are on Kyeyo - no you are in exile and I suggest we go back to Geneva and change the rules of a refugees because Museveni is persecuting Ugandans by imposing poverty on all non- Bahima in Uganda.
Before Museveni came to power, Bahima were one, united. What is King Barigye saying about this? Nothing; because the Bairu supported Obote in dismantling his Kingdom.
Wake up Ugandans and go back to your history thats where our problem lies Museveni is just using it to play us.
Balaalo, Ugandan's land, Kony, Karamajong's cattle and so forth is what Museveni is claiming to solve. You have to remember while Museveni was in the bush he was calculating and surveying your land and its resources, from Luwero, Teso, Acholi up to Arua, simple! Now he wants all of it.
Wake, wake up!!!!!!!!!
22 Dec 2007
31.
On the issue of the HIMA PLAN, I would like to inform my fellow Ugandans that these people have got a plan that will lead here for 150 years all from the bahima people. so its high time for us to wake up as we are being eatten by this lion seeing.
col.lwanga
32.
Hima clan Master Plan:
M7 has always said that he will retire when he completes his "Mission", so now we know the mission. An evil one. This can not be allowed to go on. He has penetrated all parts of Uganda; there is no where you can go and not find the "Balalo". Everywhere they go, they are buying large chunks of land from "made poor" peasants. Whose poverty has made them blind of the value of their land and are almost giving it away freely.
In 2004, I used to wonder why a man from the west would be interested in land as far as Busia; now I know. Make them poor and then control them in all ways economically, socially politically and even idealogically.
Are we Ugandans asleep? M7 himself tells you that his "Ministers" (I will add that even MPs) just go to sleep in parliament. He is right. Why, because they do not oppose anything he says.
When he says, Extend presidential term limit; all say YES!!!
I want a jet. All say YES!!!
Mabira must go; answer is YES!!!
KCC should be taken over by Central Government; YES!!!
When shall you ministers and MPs wake up and stop saying yes to evil. You think people will blame M7 for what you have endorsed? No way. You think you will run away with him in his new jet you endorsed? No way. Wake up now.
I will add the army to the list of those asleep. We have the so called professional soldiers (read army) that are more educated than we have had in previous regimes, but what do they do apart from tormenting unarmed innocent civilians for the sake of one evil man? It is time you soldiers also wake up from your sleep. You are being taken for a ride.
Since he is armed to the teeth, it has to be you "Uganda loving soldiers" to deliver us from evil. If civilians rise and march, he will certainly order his henchmen (PGB full of Bahima) in uniform to shoot all of them. And since they do not care about any ordinary Ugandan, they would do it without haste. But if the soldiers rise and march, he would face fire for fire. It has to be the army to deliver us from this evil.
Concerned Ugandan
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